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About Roman Catholic Church doing secular business in Slovenia. Dog is here for Slovenian quote only, not because of dogging! Whom the Bell Tolls? Komu zvoni? Morala in etika na psu ... Itak, tradicionalno. Since A.D. 33.
doing business as
Image by artist in doing nothing
Hope, hope, hope...

Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted.

Albert Einstein, 14.3.1879 - 18.4.1955
Nobel Prize Laureate (Physics)


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Two great European narcotics, alcohol and Christianity.

Friedrich Nietzsche 15.10.1844 - 25.8.1900
philosopher and lyricist.


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Zvon Ena, Zvon Dva, Rast itd. 68 000 zlorabljenih (*tokrat ne spolno, čeprav so bili nategnjeni*), vlagateljev se je prepričalo v tradicionalni pohlep Rimokatoliške cerkve. Namen opravičuje sredstva. Morala in etika sta pa v RKC ( ... in tudi sicer ...) itak na psu.

The bankruptcy issue of financial fiddling in Slovenian Roman Catholic Church: 800 millions euro loss. 68 000 small shareholders mostly faithful Christians left with nothing.

Poročilo mrliškega oglednika:
Coroners report:


Zvon 1 - SecurityID=ZVHR
Zvon 2 - SecurityID=ZV2R

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“Be Content with what you have;
rejoice in the way things are.
When you realize there is nothing lacking,
the whole world belongs to you.”

- Lao Tzu


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Just to inform English speaking ppl interested to know a little more about this interesting story about bankruptcy of *Biblical dimensions* here is the link to News magazine L'Espresso in Rome who heralded these shocking news the first:

(English) L'Espresso : The holy crash
(Italiano) L'Espresso : Chiesa crac, salta il vescovo
(Slovensko) RTV SLO : Polom biblijskih razsežnosti
(Italiano) : Toh la chiesa a fatto crac

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“The secret of happiness, you
see, is not found in seeking
more, but in developing the
capacity to enjoy less.”

- Socrates

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Anyway, to continue more globally, there are still some honest, spiritual guys living and working in the world, and also even more honest, minimalistic guys which transcending religious envelop have become free in realm of spirituality. Upgraded religion is spirituality!

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The following text is a copy/paste of some un-copyrighted interesting stuff to taste and enjoy:

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Excerpt from Leo Babauta's blog:

I am not a brewer

I’ve been learning a bit about beers lately (and enjoying the learning process) and on the top beer ratings sites a beer from the Westvleteren Brewery tops the rankings.

It’s a Belgium beer brewed by monks who absolutely fascinate me. They brew the best beer in the world and yet seem to care nothing about business. As their beer has gained fame they refuse to raise production to meet demand. They refuse to market their beers and have no label on their bottles. They do no advertising and don’t allow interviews or tours of their brewery — you can visit a visitors’ center across the street but they don’t want to be bothered. You can only buy two cases at a time and you have to drive to their brewery to get it — and only after reserving via phone.

They are crazy dudes but I love them. They are not interested in making money or fame or accomplishments. They just want to be monks.

Father Abbott said on the occasion of the consecration of their new brewery “But we do not live ‘for’ our brewery. This must be strange for business people and difficult to understand that we do not exploit our commercial assets as much as we can.”

He went on to say “We are no brewers. We are monks. We brew beer to be able to afford being monks.”

I’m with him.


For people interested to learn and know more I give a couple of links:

zenhabits.net/about/
mnmlist.com/brew/

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Dedicated with hope to all Roman Catholic Church clerics in Maribor (Ljubljana attn H. Mr A. Stres, Koper etc. including), Slovenia. But alas, as far as I know in 2000 years they developed undestructible immunity to ethical and moral issues.

www.rkc.si


Meja se bo dvigala med izvoljenimi in zavrženimi.
Na Al Arafu bodo možje, ki bodo poznali tako prve kakor druge po gotovih znamenjih.
Dejali bodo gostom raja: Mir z vami! In kljub gorečnosti svojega hrepenenja ne bodo
mogli stopiti vanj. Kadar pa bodo obrnili svoje poglede proti žrtvam ognja,
bodo vzkliknili: Gospod! Ne vrzi nas med brezbožnike!

Koran, VII. 44, 45.

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And the dwellers of Paradise will call out to the dwellers of the Fire (saying): "We have indeed found true what our Lord had promised us; have you also found true, what your Lord promised (warnings)?" They shall say: "Yes." Then a crier will proclaim between them: "The Curse of Allâh is on the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers),"
Verse:045

Those who hindered (men) from the Path of Allâh, and would seek to make it crooked, and they were disbelievers in the Hereafter.
Verse:046

And between them will be a (barrier) screen and on Al-A'râf (a wall with elevated places) will be men (whose good and evil deeds would be equal in scale), who would recognise all (of the Paradise and Hell people), by their marks (the dwellers of Paradise by their white faces and the dwellers of Hell by their black faces), they will call out to the dwellers of Paradise, "Salâmun 'Alaikûm" (peace be on you), and at that time they (men on Al-A'râf) will not yet have entered it (Paradise), but they will hope to enter (it) with certainty.

quranexplorer.com/index/Sura_007_Al_Araf_THE_HEIGHTS.aspx

Sattva binds to happiness,
Rajas to action
and Tamas, clouding wisdom,
to negligent indulgence.

From Sattva arises wisdom;
from Rajas, greed;
carelessness, delusion and ignorance arise from Tamas.

The Bhagavad Gita, chapter 14, shlokas 9 and 17.

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As rain cannot penetrate
a well-made roof,
so the passions cannot enter a well-trained heart.

Dhammapada v. 14

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If anything is to be done, do it well,
with energy and devotion;
the renunciate life led heedlessly
just stirs up the dust.

Dhammapada v. 313

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Do not seek the company of misguided friends;
beware of degenerate companions.
Seek and enjoy the company of well-guided friends,
those who support insight.

Dhammapada v. 78

Meja se bo dvigala med izvoljenimi in zavrženimi.
Na Al Arafu bodo možje, ki bodo poznali tako prve kakor druge po gotovih znamenjih.
Dejali bodo gostom raja: Mir z vami! In kljub gorečnosti svojega hrepenenja ne bodo
mogli stopiti vanj. Kadar pa bodo obrnili svoje poglede proti žrtvam ognja,
bodo vzkliknili: Gospod! Ne vrzi nas med brezbožnike!

Koran, VII. 44, 45.

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And the dwellers of Paradise will call out to the dwellers of the Fire (saying): "We have indeed found true what our Lord had promised us; have you also found true, what your Lord promised (warnings)?" They shall say: "Yes." Then a crier will proclaim between them: "The Curse of Allâh is on the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers),"
Verse:045

Those who hindered (men) from the Path of Allâh, and would seek to make it crooked, and they were disbelievers in the Hereafter.
Verse:046

And between them will be a (barrier) screen and on Al-A'râf (a wall with elevated places) will be men (whose good and evil deeds would be equal in scale), who would recognise all (of the Paradise and Hell people), by their marks (the dwellers of Paradise by their white faces and the dwellers of Hell by their black faces), they will call out to the dwellers of Paradise, "Salâmun 'Alaikûm" (peace be on you), and at that time they (men on Al-A'râf) will not yet have entered it (Paradise), but they will hope to enter (it) with certainty.

quranexplorer.com/index/Sura_007_Al_Araf_THE_HEIGHTS.aspx

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Jesuit priest Jacques Ellul comes to mind. It is a rather succinct, clever definition of propaganda. To whit, "The ultimate success of propaganda is when one is able to make losers feel like winners."

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Try this:

George Carlin : Religion is bullshit.

Pat Condell - Satan is a Catholic


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And finally if you exchange words "$ CIENTOLOGY" ( yes, totally an other story) in this flyer I got in Australia, with "Roman-Catholic Church" you can feel something very near and dear and known:



www.scientology.org/


Roman-Catholic Church likes blood and slaughtering. Think about all killings in Americas in the name of Jesus Christ satisfying their greed for gold, silver and sexual indulgences. 2000 years of experiences.

Original article:
Argentinski posli Zvona Ena bi lahko NLB stali dodaten denar



img.rtvslo.si/upload/Svet/meso_show.jpg


Vatikan priznal hude napake, a zanikal oviranje preiskave
Odziv na poročilo o zlorabi otrok na Irskem dolgo pričakovan ...

3. september 2011 ob 20:38
Vatikan - MMC RTV SLO/Reuters/STA


Vatikan je v odzivu na poročilo irske vlade o preiskavi zlorabljanja otrok priznal hude napake pri obravnavi spolnih zlorab, a zanikal trditve, da so ovirali preiskave.

Izvorni članek :

www.rtvslo.si/svet/vatikan-priznal-hude-napake-a-zanikal-...




Kalama Sutta:

... (The criterion for rejection) ...

4. "It is proper for you, Kalamas, to doubt, to be uncertain;
uncertainty has arisen in you about what is doubtful.

Come, Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated
hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a
scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious
reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered
over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the
consideration, 'The monk is our teacher.'


Kalamas, when you yourselves know: 'These things are bad; these things are blamable;
these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,'
abandon them.



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Obviously before the last Conclave:

... Over the last few weeks some have asked who I think the next Pope would be. I have stated all along that I had three or four favorites judging by how evil this church needs to get next if they hope to enforce their mark. Out of those favorites I saw two that stand out rather boldly. Cardinal Francis Arinze, a black man who declared openly Christ is not needed to gain Heaven. And Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger who heads the office of Inquisition that Pope John Paul II re-instated back in February of 1991, who also declared Christ not needed. I have said repeatedly that if there were only these two to choose from, I am positive Ratzinger would get the vote. As some of you that frequent the POGM Chat rooms know, I started the research a few days before Ratzinger was elected because I felt he was going to get to the job. Why? He was a Nazi soldier as well as one of Hitler’s youth. You do the math. To have a man with such an evil past as his, one can only assume he is Rome’s favourite. A babe in Christ that studies prophecy could have figured this one out. Looking to John Paul II and the fact he sold cyanide to the Nazi’s for killing Jews, one can see it’s a good bet they would elect Ratzinger all along. In fact, there were many articles in the media beforehand proclaiming him the favorite to win. And we all thought it was a SECRET conclave eh? ...
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Pope John Paul II: Zyklon B Salesman
by TONY BUSHBY


In his book 'Behold a Pale Horse,' former US Naval Intelligence Officer William Cooper relates a story associated with the IG Farben Chemical Company.

In the early 1940s, that company employed a Polish chemist and salesman who sold cyanide gas, Zyklon B and Malathion to the Nazis for extermination of groups of people in Auschwitz.

After the war the salesman joined the Catholic church and was ordained a priest.

In 1958 he became Poland's youngest bishop and after Pope John Paul I's mysterious death [... After a 30-day reign his predecessor was assassinated and ... -William Cooper, BEHOLD A PALE HORSE, (Light Technology Publishing, 1991), pp.89-90. ... ], the ex-cyanide gas salesman Karol Wojtyla was elected to the papacy as Pope John Paul II in October 1978.

In March 2000, he publicly apologized not for his war effort, but for the wickedness of the Christian religion. The plea for forgiveness also sought to pardon the use of 'violence in the service of truth' an often used fragile and treoubling referenece to the Inquisition.

The apology read by the Pope was the result of four years of work by a panel of 28 theologians and scholars and was by far the most sweeping act by a leader of a major religion.

On few occasions have ecclesiastical authorities ever acknowlegdegd the faults or abuses of which they themselves were guilty. There was concern that the apology was a major theological miscalculation that could undermine the Pope's weakening authority and the unanswered question posed by the international media was --
'In whose name was the Pope asking for forgiveness?' (Excerpted from 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby)

www.remnantofgod.org/JohnPaul2cyn.htm

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Catch 22: Drobni tisk, ki ga RKC s pridom izkorišča, vendar menim, da je to podobno kot spolno zlorabiti umsko prizadeto ali omejeno osebo:
Izstop iz Katoliške cerkve
ali
kdor je bil brez svojega privoljenja vržen v katoliško cerkev, ne more več iz nje.
I. V zadnjem času je vedno več izstopov iz Katoliške cerkve (KC). Zaradi velikega zanimanja s strani medijev za izstope, je Slovenska škofovska konferenca celo izdala posebno tiskovno sporočilo (10.11.2004) oz. je njen predstavnik dr. Saje v reviji Jana (26.10.2004) pojasnjeval to tematiko.
Nesporno je, da je iz KC mogoče izstopiti. Vendar pa je ta izstop samo formalen, kot to navaja KC, kajti notranja zakramentalna vez med izstopnikom in KC ostane, ker je zakrament krsta v skladu z učenjem KC neizbrisno znamenje. Po učenju KC tisti, ki iz KC formalno izstopi, ni več subjekt pravic v skladu z določili Zakonika cerkvenega prava, hkrati pa ga vežejo vsi Božji in cerkveni zakoni, razen kanonične oblike poroke.

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